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kajlima
Signed | Chapter : 6 | Date : 04/11/08
Too bad these fine women and girls would make a great force in battle with voldermort. I mean just look at them. Hermione gets training even more so tha what Harry gets.

Either way good chapter!!! waiting for more!!!
 

Sailor Universe
Signed | Chapter : 6 | Date : 02/11/08
whoa now. I'm just a smidge confused about the whole transferring thing. she was talking about getting harry out of hogwarts and then her thinking about transferring while being trained at hogwarts and... would this just be transferring to get him out to make sure he's alive, or to get both of them out? what's more, I fail to see how this would be effective when it comes to his safety. wouldn'that only lead moldyshorts to france? (lol, sorry, that nickname for voldemort has been stuck in my head from another fic I was reading )
day 4 for them already? wait, I don't know why I'm surprised that's it's already day 4 and not that it's *only* day 4. it actually seems like they should've been there for at least a couple weeks by now.
... hmm... I almost forgot... I'm really curious to know the reason behind hermione wanting to learn morse code. I mean, I know it's hermione and that she loves to learn, and that a reason to learn it would be about communication (duh), but there's gotta be something behind this...

 

Mrs. Radcliffe
Signed | Chapter : 6 | Date : 30/10/08
Helene is really cool I like her attitude. hope Harry/Hermione begins soon!
 

winky3412
Signed | Chapter : 6 | Date : 22/10/08
are you going to update this thing soon? I want to see what happens next!
 

ReviewerOfTheWest
Signed | Chapter : 6 | Date : 12/10/08
Your story is nice so far...but it would be a rather bizarre twist for you to move from lesbian prefects to fleeing the country to safety and sanity.

I'm not sure how having a proxy do something for you really prevents paradox. Hermione could have the hotel manager mail tomorrow's lottery numbers to per parents for her and it would be OK?

Please continue.
Author Feedback: No plans on moving the entire story to France. Beauxbatons is a minor plot device.

On the proxy....there were two concerns. Neither all that serious.

A minor paradox issue...if Hermione sent the letter by owl, and Beuxbatons replied, would the owl fly to Grimmauld Place or the Channel Islands?

Slightly more important was the chance of having Coven Camp revealed. If Madame Maxime asked DD about Hermione sending a letter, but DD knew (or had ways of knowing) that Hermione hadn't sent a owl from Grimmauld Place first time around, there'd be trouble.

thanks for the review.
 

Harry85
Signed | Chapter : 6 | Date : 09/10/08
Well, I hope it won't come to them leaving Britain either. i'm glad the next one will be the last camp chapter, because as fun as it was, I'd really prefer to see the Coven ina ction at Hogwarts.
 

Harry85
Signed | Chapter : 5 | Date : 09/10/08
This camp must be fun...but it will have its embarrassing moments too,
 

brad
Signed | Chapter : 6 | Date : 07/10/08
Well, the emphasis/plot on homosexual sex and the like really isn't my thing, but (a) you write very well, and (b) I'm enjoying very much the other story content. Like the idea of Hermione looking into a transfer to another school ... a ploy that seems so obvious, now that you've raised it. And the H/Hr friendship and Hermione's efforts to help Harry is always a draw for any well-written story.

The idea of Hermione realising that she's interesting in Harry, considering to actively pursue him, and seeing Cho as a competitor is also intriguing. I enjoyed Hermione's noting Cho's alpha bitch (!) behaviour ... I hope to read of Hermione thwarting the older girl and leaving her in the dust in the race to Harry's heart.

I don't have a clue what the morse code is for. A means of surreptitiously communicating in class under Umbridge's nose?
Author Feedback: thanks for the review.

from earlier in the story...Hermione's prefects badge has been charmed to be able to communicate with Amelia Bones using morse code and Amelia's head auror badge.
 

Giringiro
Signed | Chapter : 6 | Date : 03/10/08
Late review; I'll make up for it with word count!

I am usually a fan of your work, but I can't seem to completely warm up to this fic, though I'm hoping I will like it better after the focus mercifully shifts from the nudist camp.

My main peeve is that homosexuals have been portrayed in an unflattering way. I mean in the initial chapters we could have seen loving, wise elder couples holding hands with dignity and decency and quiet, understated affection. What we got is openly deviant, orgy-frenzied grandmothers that use peer pressure, the threat of mind magic, the promise of exclusive training, and implausible made-up rules; all to enforce nudity and humiliate and sexually harass underage girls (and yeah, that's precisely what they did, sorry).

The Coven also appears to believe that two wrongs can make a right, since they respond to injustice with more of the same, and seem to consider the larger world their enemy. In my opinion, the fact that Dumbledore is a monster is small excuse.

I'm kind of expecting a situation where a male prefect is sent to St. Mungo's, because he found two gay students that couldn't be bothered to abstain from sex while at school; and his partner in patrols received a week-long crash course in brainwashing and she can't be expected to be very good at it. Whoops!

I am thinking in this fiction, occlumency and obliviation must be safe and easily mastered skills, purposely kept out of the Hogwarts curriculum by Dumbledore and the Coven, both of which want the exclusive on such useful tools. Though, learning so much so easily in a single week is a huge stretch, also considering how tiring it was for Harry: after months of practice, he still failed where the totality of female prefects succeeded. Perhaps you'll get to explain that later, when Snape's occlumency lessons begin. Like, he might have been sabotaging Harry's efforts; but, that would make for a very dumb Harry and an even dumber Dumbledore...

I notice there has been very little Order of the Phoenix material so far, and a large number of original characters. Are the Coven perspective and the smarter gender going to dominate this story, with canon and the uglier sex occasionally showing up to keep track of time?

What's the rational strategy one should expect from the Coven? I mean, between advising gay students to wait for Hogsmeade week-ends and summer holidays; or secretly training enforcers to attack people with the audacity to uphold school rules: the Coven goes for the jugular. Students must be allowed to have sex in school, possibly with the teachers, and that's final!

Hermione seems to be accepting of these extreme methods instead of challenging them. That seems unlike her, though perhaps she's still subdued because of the dressing down she received about house elves. I'm hoping she won't get discouraged about S.P.E.W., and against all odds will keep looking for a way to abolish the elves' magical slavery (without harming them in the process this time).

Will Harry come in contact with the reality of the repression occurring at Hogwarts?

Crossing my fingers, I anticipate Harry will be more difficult for the Coven to bend, than Hermione was. While I can see Harry is obviously gay-tolerant and won't stand for Dumbledore's policies, I also doubt he's going to let himself be bullied by the memory charm, or bought with knowledge or privileges, as Hermione was.

Perhaps Hermione will act in secret behind Harry's back and he will never know about the Coven at all. That might work, though, I don't think that keeping secrets and successful relationships mix well.

I see I am being overly critical and I apologize. There are several things I like about this story.

Your writing style for one, which I always enjoy. And (some of) the steamier scenes and innuendo.

And it's also entertaining that every single canon female positive authority figure is a closet lesbian sworn to secrecy. A horde! There is no end to them!

And the gadgets. You've bent canon a little, inventing massive multiplayer time-turners, educational pensieves as well as the toilet of wonders. It seems the Coven is more enlightened, better organized and trained and equipped than just about everything in the wizarding world. I'm confident they can take on Voldemort and win (unless Voldemort is gay too! *shivers*). And the world is next... A better world, where the evil known as pants will no longer exist...

I'm cheering them on.

Thanks for sharing!
Author Feedback: wow, thanks for taking the time to review...I'm sure you're now the record holder for longest portkey review of one of my stories.

I didn’t intend to respond with equal (or greater) length, but this sort of snow-balled. Hope you don’t mind.

1. Like every multi-chapter fic I've started, this one didn't start with a full-blown outline, or a lot of thought about big themes and issues. I make it up as I go along, for better or worse. Three chapters into this story I started seeing potential for a full blown alternate universe and a 250,000 word fic. But then I go back (as always) and start to regret some of the early plot meanders or one-off points that look awkward and off. This is a long-winded say of saying that I appreciate some of your concerns and agree with some of your points, but it's hard to go back and fix things. That's why I get paid the big bucks to write creative fiction (not).

2. A few other reviewers looking at this AU with a critical eye have taken issue with the Coven's heavy handed methods and casual use/abuse of mind charms. Two points ...first, this isn't a perfect organization, by any means. There is a bit of Pogo here (we've seen the enemy, and it is us). This is a major plot element...Hermione could just as easily become jaded with the Coven's methods as DD's, or she could try and change/infuence change from within. She's just joined, though, and is only a fifth-year. And, after just having been disabused of her misguided campaigning against house-elf slavery, she's going to tred cautiously.

Second point, on their use of mind charms. Yes, they use them a lot, and from our perspective these are intolerable abuses of power and invasions of privacy/free will. But that's from our perspective. From their POV, it's not as much of a big deal. Remember just how readily and casualy they mind wipe muggles to preserve the secrets of the wizarding world. The Coven sees no difference in wiping magical memories to preserve the secrets of the magical gay scene. This will be another developmental step for Hermione...what will she do when she's faced with the obligation to obliviate Harry, or Neville, or even Ron (not that he'd notice).

On “deviency” and the prevelance/pressure of casual nudity…making the gay witches something less than the lofty, principled role models that you propose. Okay, if I were to revise the initiation cerermony and dining room I would tone that down. But, deviancy is a subjective term, and I’m going to put the NC17 rating to good use. I have read of a real-life annual all-womyn (intentional spelling) gathering in the woods of Michigan where nudity and casual lesbian encounters are the norm (and no, it wasn’t in Penthouse forum). And on the other side, I’ve had a gay male coworker regale me with stories about the glory days before 1985 and HIV...of bathhouse anonymous orgies and bawdy camping trips with his buddies. And I don’t really see a need to make the Coven members perfect role models, either. In a world where they can’t openly express their identies, or live their lives, I could see a situation where, in the rare safe and secure situation, the pressure would be released in an over-the-top manner.

3. I’m not at all interested in writing scenes involving sexual harrassment for the tittilation factor. Now, are there clear cut examples of sexual harrassment or coercion in the first few chapters? Perhaps. Depends on how stridently you want to look at it. But again, the Coven witches aren’t perfect role models, and I’m going to give older lesbian witches as much opportunity to display some lecherous behaviors as I would older straight wizards under similar circumstances. And, I’ll note that some of situations that you’ve objected too aren’t all that different from the initiation rituals/pledging/hazing that goes on in muggle fraternities. Or rugby teams, for that matter. But I hear what you’re saying here…I’ve already rewritten the next chapter to tone it down and speak to this concern (while still allowing for some hazing of the new prefects).

4. You seem to prefer that lesbian students at Hogwarts be counseled to abstain, or save it for secured liasions, and that they are to blame if they’re caught snogging in a broom closet and a male prefect is obliviated as a result. I don’t see it quite that way. The Coven has taken it upon itself to engage in acts of vigilante parity. If a boy and girl get caught shagging in a broom closet, what are the consequences, when compared with a gay couple in the same boat? The Coven is rather militant…they don’t feel like they need to shamefully hide and/or conform to patriarchal attitudes. It might seem stupid that they’re fighting for the right to shag in broom closets just like het couples, but there you go. And once more, in this AU, the casual use of memory charms isn’t as bad as we think it should be. On your example of the boy that ends up with a wiped mind in St. Mungo’s….is that really all that different than all of the maladies that the students experience at Hogwarts? Or all of the strange medical conditions shown in canon OotP when St. Mungo’s is visited? Let’s assume that it’s very, very hard to suffer irreversible brain damage through obliviation. Even if it’s a botched job, somebody at St. M is going to have the expertise necessary to fix it.

5. On the ease in which occlumency and the obliviate spell is used…Occumency is harder to learn and not routinely taught (there’s no perceived need), but the obliviate spell is something taught, probably Seventh-Year. In this AU, every witch or wizard needs to be able to protect the wizarding world’s secrets by oblviating muggles when the situation demands. I can’t see them always leaving it up to the MoM to clean up the messes. You’ll see more of my thoughts on this in next chapter.

Regarding the fact that Harry has a hard time learning Occlumency when Snape taught him in canon…well, in my mind (and many others), there was no sincere attempt on Snape’s part to teach. It was closer to mind rape, and opportunity for him to abuse Harry as revenge for James. His teaching methods sucked, too. And, Harry was only meeting with Snape once a week for a few hours at a time. I’ll stand behind the idea that a crash course in Occlumency can successfully teach the subject when there are betther teaching methods, and many, many hours available (they could teach as much Occlumency in one day of Coven Camp as Harry would have gotten in a month of Snape’s lessons).

6. My Hermione has experienced a radical shift in her world view. Not just that she was so wrong about SPEW and the house elves, but that her trust in authority figures (Dumbledore) has been shattered. This is going to keep her down in spirit and a bit more maleable than she’d otherwise be. Rather than try to free house elves, look for her to instead work on bettering their living conditions (limiting physical abuse, for example).

7. Finally (and I have been long winded, haven’t I?), I haven’t yet decided how much Harry will find out about the Coven, or how much interaction there will be. Another point of conflict within the story…will Hermione be able to use the advantages of being a Coven member to help Harry without him knowing it? What happens if he finds out, and thinks that Hermione has been manipulating him behind the scenes as much as anyone else has? Stuff to work through as I work through an AU version of Book 5.

I’m glad that you’ve enjoyed the story in the ways that you’ve mentioned, and I once again thank you for caring enough to post this review.
 

Zlangaz
Signed | Chapter : 1 | Date : 02/10/08
I enjoy this chapter.

It\'s really good, can\'t wait for more to read X3
 

whatareyouevensaying
Signed | Chapter : 6 | Date : 02/10/08
Err...I can't believe I haven't been reading this version! Ah well, all caught up now.

Pretty excellent, and unfortunately more plausible than the other version.

Looking forward to more.
 

Gryyphyn
Signed | Chapter : 6 | Date : 02/10/08
Interesting thought, sending them to Beauxbaton's. I've thought about having at least Harry and Ron wind up in Durmstrang, at least for a term or two, but never about having Harry to there. I thought it was a girl's-only school? Could be wrong... but don't change the story if I am!
Author Feedback: I'm pretty sure that in GoF there's a line about Parvati hanging out at the Yule Ball with a table of Beauxbatons boys.
 

smhalcyon
Signed | Chapter : 6 | Date : 01/10/08
Another nice chapter to your latest story. keep up the good work.
 

kaylee_jane_potter
Signed | Chapter : 6 | Date : 01/10/08
i really like this idea of hermione AND harry transferring to beauxbatons. i've seen hermione transfer in another fic and i think it's something that should have been touch on more.
Author Feedback: Don't count on a change of scenery...it could just be used as a bargaining chip, or as an emergency last resort. stay tuned.
 

Unicornzvi
Signed | Chapter : 6 | Date : 01/10/08
This Hermionie seems very casual about school work and study. Very odd, especially considering that you had her need to learn meditation to ground herself down to the level we see in the books.

Additionally I'll note that you seem determined to ruin the good impression I had of your world set up in the first chapter. If France was so permisive as opposed to England's restrictive laws (as far as homosexuality and spell casting) and also has such good education available WHY don't hordes of witches emigrate to France? And no 'magical bindings' or similar are not a reasonable general response , although in some limited specific cases they might be as if that was the limiter in the majority (or even a large minority) of cases there'd be blood on the streets to correct matters.

The Unicorn
Author Feedback: Thanks for taking the time to write your thoughtful reviews.

Is Hermione OOC? Perhaps. My Hr is treating this time-turned week as a gift, and a time to focus on things outside of the Hogwarts curriculum. She's not going to study for OWLs, and instead will work on occlumency/obliviate/morse code. She's also going to work on working through her views on house elves. That said, Helene Brixton has taken an interest in Hr, and has made it her business to keep finding ways to run into/be with her. Why? Answer soon.

As for my world construction...I think I said that France was more tolerant of homosexuality, but that doesn't mean that it's paradise for gays. "More tolerant" could mean that they still frown on gays, and discriminate, and socially shun. But they don't try to forcibly convert them straight through mind rape/control/alteration. The French MoM could also have discriminatory laws that prevent gays from immigrating, at least to "mainland" France.

Because of Britain's antediluvian attitudes and laws they've lost many of the brightest gay (and muggleborn) wizards and witches to emigration (not just to the Continent, but N. America). But Britain is still home, and many others would choose to risk staying even in the absence of binding contracts. If for no other reason than to keep the Coven going, as a sort of resistance movement both at Hogwarts and the MoM.

 

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